Lonely Hearts Meet
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Comment from NaughtieScribe
I want so much for things to work out for Anna. I'm so mad I didn't find this jewel until chapter 70. Even so, I want to believe that Anna, Michael, and Troy have a happily ever after. And I hope Bobby catches a bullet to the forehead.
reply by the author on 17-Jun-2012
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I want so much for things to work out for Anna. I'm so mad I didn't find this jewel until chapter 70. Even so, I want to believe that Anna, Michael, and Troy have a happily ever after. And I hope Bobby catches a bullet to the forehead.
Comment Written 16-Jun-2012
reply by the author on 17-Jun-2012
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Thank you so much.
Comment from rzubey
I'm glad that Anna has Betty and Margaret for friends and is able to do normal things with them, but I have the feeling that something is going to happen. That's great writing, to get a reader like me involved and keep me involved. And I am involved. Keep up the great work. I'm very glad I started reading this from the beginning. It is truly an awesome story.
reply by the author on 07-Feb-2012
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I'm glad that Anna has Betty and Margaret for friends and is able to do normal things with them, but I have the feeling that something is going to happen. That's great writing, to get a reader like me involved and keep me involved. And I am involved. Keep up the great work. I'm very glad I started reading this from the beginning. It is truly an awesome story.
Comment Written 07-Feb-2012
reply by the author on 07-Feb-2012
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Thank you for the kind review.
Comment from Roberta Joan Jensen
He did about five thousand dollars worth of damage and broke a man's arm." --- Bobby's definitely going to prison! There's the domestic violence/assault and battery against Anna, child abuse against Michael, property damage against the bar owner, assault and battery against the man with the broken arm, (Did Bobby use any weapon in the bar--a knife, broken chair leg, anything? If so, then it's aggravated.) and violating the terms of his release.
He lifted a packet of papers. "Mr. Rodgers has already filed for divorce. I've read the paperwork. You don't want to contest it, do you?" After she shook her head, he continued, "I didn't think so." --- Paul would hand Anna the petition. In fact, he'd give her a copy of the complete packet. They would go through the Petition for Dissolution paragraph by paragraph, and admit, deny, or say she lacks sufficient knowledge to admit or deny each paragraph for the Response. In Arizona, we say that the marriage is irretrievably broken, but I don't know the terminology for Texas. Anyway, she would admit that, but deny that Bobby should have custody and child support, and allege that she should have sole legal custody with no visitation or supervised visitation rights in Bobby. With Anna earning $42,000 a year, she would not be entitled to spousal maintenance unless Bobby earned more than double her income, and even then she'd probably not get it because they've been married less than a year.
Division of property and debts: Anything acquired before marriage is separate property of that person so long as the name of the other party wasn't added to the property. So, her car, his business and house, are all definitely separate property.
Everything acquired during marriage is community property and should be equally divided. That means that Bobby's truck, but there probably isn't any equity to speak of in it, so nothing to divide.
Any furniture or anything they bought during the marriage should be divided. Any furniture that he inherited along with the house is his.
Life insurance: Her life insurance is probably through her employment and, as such, she is the owner. All she needs to do, therefore, is change the beneficiary.
If Bobby has insurance on his life and is the owner, she would ask the court to order that he maintain Michael as the beneficiary. That way, should he die, which he might do in prison because of his nature, the child support would be protected.
Pensions: Being self-employed, young, and foolish, Bobby probably doesn't have any.
She does through her employment and the portion earned during marriage is community property and has to be separated from what she earned prior to marriage, which is her separate property. It would be so little because of the shortness of the marriage that what is usually done is that her share of his truck would offset his share of her pension, and they'd each keep their own.
Division of debts: All debts incurred during marriage are community and each responsible for one-half, unless it's related to his business. All debts of the business are his separate because the business is his separate.
The divorce decree ordering each of them to pay whatever of the debts only affects the two of them, however, not the creditors. With Bobby going to prison, if there are a lot of marital debts, she might have to file bankruptcy because the creditors can come after her when he doesn't pay. So, an alternative would be for her to pay what he's ordered to pay in the Decree and then go after him to enforce the terms of the decree once he's out of prison, and ask the court to order him to reimburse her for what she paid.
Another alternative is for her to take all of the debts if Bobby has some property that he can give her to offset his share of the debts.
Disclosure statement: 40 days after Anna files her response, each is supposed to file and provide the other with a copy of the disclosure statement. In this, they spell out their arguments to support each thing they're asking for; provide a list of all witnesses they may call to testify at trial and include the names, phone numbers, addresses, and a brief description of what each will testify about; and attach copies of all documents they plan to use at trial such as deeds and vehicle titles, checking and savings account statements from date of marriage, all bills and debts, credit reports, life insurance dec sheets, pension statement which shows total value of her pension along with a break down of what was earned prior to date of marriage and value of what was earned during marriage. Very important would be Bobby's criminal file. A police check would be done to see if he's been in previous trouble, which is probably the case, and records of that would be included as well.
For child support purposes, Her pay stubs and previous tax returns, and Bobby's business records to show his earnings and previous tax returns, assuming he filed, along with proof of cost of day care and medical insurance for the child. With Bobby going to prison, she would probably be ordered to provide mdical but her cost for that would be included in the child support.
The key to the Disclosure statement is that you provide everything you "might" use at trial. You don't have to use all of it, but you cannot use anything that's not included.
One other thing, is Bobby's business the type that someone can take it over and run it for him while he's in prison? If not and it goes bellyup without him, there's no money for him to pay his debts and child support. If so, someone needs to keep it going and pay Bobby's debts and child support.
If everything is not provided, the other side would subpoena it.
When they feel like they have everything and are ready for trial, one side files a Motion to set and certificate of Readiness and tells the court how much time they need for trial and asks the court to set the date(s).
Whether or not Bobby goes to prison, and for how long, makes a big difference to the custody, visitation, and support so that Anna will not want to have the trial until after Bobby's trial to see if he's convicted, and then not till after the sentencing (which, in Arizona, is held 30 days later) to see how long he'll be in prison.
Other than that[,] I don't want anything to do with [the] house.
Oh yes, you should get half of what is in the banking[checking] account and saving[s] account, if you have one."
Paul smiled. "He[that's] has a good idea. I think I'll nap in my favorite chair."
Roberta
reply by the author on 17-Sep-2011
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He did about five thousand dollars worth of damage and broke a man's arm." --- Bobby's definitely going to prison! There's the domestic violence/assault and battery against Anna, child abuse against Michael, property damage against the bar owner, assault and battery against the man with the broken arm, (Did Bobby use any weapon in the bar--a knife, broken chair leg, anything? If so, then it's aggravated.) and violating the terms of his release.
He lifted a packet of papers. "Mr. Rodgers has already filed for divorce. I've read the paperwork. You don't want to contest it, do you?" After she shook her head, he continued, "I didn't think so." --- Paul would hand Anna the petition. In fact, he'd give her a copy of the complete packet. They would go through the Petition for Dissolution paragraph by paragraph, and admit, deny, or say she lacks sufficient knowledge to admit or deny each paragraph for the Response. In Arizona, we say that the marriage is irretrievably broken, but I don't know the terminology for Texas. Anyway, she would admit that, but deny that Bobby should have custody and child support, and allege that she should have sole legal custody with no visitation or supervised visitation rights in Bobby. With Anna earning $42,000 a year, she would not be entitled to spousal maintenance unless Bobby earned more than double her income, and even then she'd probably not get it because they've been married less than a year.
Division of property and debts: Anything acquired before marriage is separate property of that person so long as the name of the other party wasn't added to the property. So, her car, his business and house, are all definitely separate property.
Everything acquired during marriage is community property and should be equally divided. That means that Bobby's truck, but there probably isn't any equity to speak of in it, so nothing to divide.
Any furniture or anything they bought during the marriage should be divided. Any furniture that he inherited along with the house is his.
Life insurance: Her life insurance is probably through her employment and, as such, she is the owner. All she needs to do, therefore, is change the beneficiary.
If Bobby has insurance on his life and is the owner, she would ask the court to order that he maintain Michael as the beneficiary. That way, should he die, which he might do in prison because of his nature, the child support would be protected.
Pensions: Being self-employed, young, and foolish, Bobby probably doesn't have any.
She does through her employment and the portion earned during marriage is community property and has to be separated from what she earned prior to marriage, which is her separate property. It would be so little because of the shortness of the marriage that what is usually done is that her share of his truck would offset his share of her pension, and they'd each keep their own.
Division of debts: All debts incurred during marriage are community and each responsible for one-half, unless it's related to his business. All debts of the business are his separate because the business is his separate.
The divorce decree ordering each of them to pay whatever of the debts only affects the two of them, however, not the creditors. With Bobby going to prison, if there are a lot of marital debts, she might have to file bankruptcy because the creditors can come after her when he doesn't pay. So, an alternative would be for her to pay what he's ordered to pay in the Decree and then go after him to enforce the terms of the decree once he's out of prison, and ask the court to order him to reimburse her for what she paid.
Another alternative is for her to take all of the debts if Bobby has some property that he can give her to offset his share of the debts.
Disclosure statement: 40 days after Anna files her response, each is supposed to file and provide the other with a copy of the disclosure statement. In this, they spell out their arguments to support each thing they're asking for; provide a list of all witnesses they may call to testify at trial and include the names, phone numbers, addresses, and a brief description of what each will testify about; and attach copies of all documents they plan to use at trial such as deeds and vehicle titles, checking and savings account statements from date of marriage, all bills and debts, credit reports, life insurance dec sheets, pension statement which shows total value of her pension along with a break down of what was earned prior to date of marriage and value of what was earned during marriage. Very important would be Bobby's criminal file. A police check would be done to see if he's been in previous trouble, which is probably the case, and records of that would be included as well.
For child support purposes, Her pay stubs and previous tax returns, and Bobby's business records to show his earnings and previous tax returns, assuming he filed, along with proof of cost of day care and medical insurance for the child. With Bobby going to prison, she would probably be ordered to provide mdical but her cost for that would be included in the child support.
The key to the Disclosure statement is that you provide everything you "might" use at trial. You don't have to use all of it, but you cannot use anything that's not included.
One other thing, is Bobby's business the type that someone can take it over and run it for him while he's in prison? If not and it goes bellyup without him, there's no money for him to pay his debts and child support. If so, someone needs to keep it going and pay Bobby's debts and child support.
If everything is not provided, the other side would subpoena it.
When they feel like they have everything and are ready for trial, one side files a Motion to set and certificate of Readiness and tells the court how much time they need for trial and asks the court to set the date(s).
Whether or not Bobby goes to prison, and for how long, makes a big difference to the custody, visitation, and support so that Anna will not want to have the trial until after Bobby's trial to see if he's convicted, and then not till after the sentencing (which, in Arizona, is held 30 days later) to see how long he'll be in prison.
Other than that[,] I don't want anything to do with [the] house.
Oh yes, you should get half of what is in the banking[checking] account and saving[s] account, if you have one."
Paul smiled. "He[that's] has a good idea. I think I'll nap in my favorite chair."
Roberta
Comment Written 16-Sep-2011
reply by the author on 17-Sep-2011
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Thank you for your help.
Comment from Nican
I still find the characters to be very plastic, one dimentional. They are all very predictable and none seem to have any strong identifiers.
I certainly would question Paul's legal advice and manner. He seems to want to be a good friend as opposed to a good lawyer.
Paul's mother who I believe I remember being described as a "good person", is always mentioned as someone to fear or to checkin in with. While this is accomplished usually with a smile or a joke, both Paul and his father have obviously been trained by her and feel compelled to acquiesce. In this chapter it is another check in and not having a donut and "Mom would find out."
The story line moves a long quite slowly. This may be a problem for some readers. I also feel that too much time was devoted to the baby.
Anna, one of the main characters here, has very little to say or do with no real progression in her character.
This review is on the negative side but other than a small advancem,ent in the plot, there is little else to commend it.
"He took a gul[ finishing his cup." typo "gul["
"Sounds great. Anna, all right to you?" odd use "to you"
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reply by the author on 19-Jul-2011
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I still find the characters to be very plastic, one dimentional. They are all very predictable and none seem to have any strong identifiers.
I certainly would question Paul's legal advice and manner. He seems to want to be a good friend as opposed to a good lawyer.
Paul's mother who I believe I remember being described as a "good person", is always mentioned as someone to fear or to checkin in with. While this is accomplished usually with a smile or a joke, both Paul and his father have obviously been trained by her and feel compelled to acquiesce. In this chapter it is another check in and not having a donut and "Mom would find out."
The story line moves a long quite slowly. This may be a problem for some readers. I also feel that too much time was devoted to the baby.
Anna, one of the main characters here, has very little to say or do with no real progression in her character.
This review is on the negative side but other than a small advancem,ent in the plot, there is little else to commend it.
"He took a gul[ finishing his cup." typo "gul["
"Sounds great. Anna, all right to you?" odd use "to you"
This rating does not count towards story rating or author rank.
The highest and the lowest rating are not included in calculations.
Comment Written 19-Jul-2011
reply by the author on 19-Jul-2011
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I guess you don't understand domestic abuse. Thank you for your review.
Comment from RebelRose
Another great chapter. Looks like things are getting organized and moving right along. If only it were all that simple. I have a feeling it's not.
Just a couple of minor nits ...He took a gul[ finishing his cup....gulp
to do with [the]house.
reply by the author on 19-Jul-2011
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Another great chapter. Looks like things are getting organized and moving right along. If only it were all that simple. I have a feeling it's not.
Just a couple of minor nits ...He took a gul[ finishing his cup....gulp
to do with [the]house.
Comment Written 19-Jul-2011
reply by the author on 19-Jul-2011
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Thank you for the kind reveiw. I have fixed those. Thank you for catching them.
Comment from Herb
I'm afraid I've missed most of this as i have been busy for the past few months. Never the less i thought it read well and was easy to follow and the characters seemed believable. Not really my thing. :)
reply by the author on 19-Jul-2011
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I'm afraid I've missed most of this as i have been busy for the past few months. Never the less i thought it read well and was easy to follow and the characters seemed believable. Not really my thing. :)
Comment Written 19-Jul-2011
reply by the author on 19-Jul-2011
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Thank you for the kind review.
Comment from nora arjuna
Hi barb, anna is really fortunate to meet a nice family who's willing to help in whichever way. The process looks easy for now but I doubt it'll be that way.
See some suggestions:
Troy took a long [drink of coffee] then turned and saw Paul [standing] in the doorway. "[You always were good] at sneaking up on me. I got your message." He took another [drink of coffee]. "I needed that. How did the bail hearing go?"
Watch the repetition about coffee. Maybe you can adjust the 2nd part. 'standing' isn't necessary. It's understood, unless he's in other position. and why past tense when referring to his father's sneaking up? i thought if he always do that, it should be in present tense. Suggest:
Troy took a long drink of coffee then turned to see Paul in the doorway. "You're always good at sneaking up on me. I got your message." He gulped the remaining black liquid and muttered, "I needed that. How did the bail hearing go?"
[suggest add some description here like - Paul stepped in.]"Very well. I proved Rodgers...
"Yes." [He] walked over and poured himself a cup of coffee. - suggest to use 'Paul' or 'His father' here. When to men are in the scene, it's better to have clear indication.
"Margaret and I will babysit this little guy, while you and Paul finish all that legal stuff." [She glanced] at Margaret. "Is that all right? " [She grinned]. "Then you and Anna can stay for dinner. We'll barbecue pork chops on the grill."
This may sound better:
"Margaret and I will babysit this little guy, while you and Paul finish all that legal stuff." She glanced at Margaret and grinned. "Is that all right? You and Anna can stay for dinner then. We'll barbecue pork chops on the grill."
reply by the author on 19-Jul-2011
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Hi barb, anna is really fortunate to meet a nice family who's willing to help in whichever way. The process looks easy for now but I doubt it'll be that way.
See some suggestions:
Troy took a long [drink of coffee] then turned and saw Paul [standing] in the doorway. "[You always were good] at sneaking up on me. I got your message." He took another [drink of coffee]. "I needed that. How did the bail hearing go?"
Watch the repetition about coffee. Maybe you can adjust the 2nd part. 'standing' isn't necessary. It's understood, unless he's in other position. and why past tense when referring to his father's sneaking up? i thought if he always do that, it should be in present tense. Suggest:
Troy took a long drink of coffee then turned to see Paul in the doorway. "You're always good at sneaking up on me. I got your message." He gulped the remaining black liquid and muttered, "I needed that. How did the bail hearing go?"
[suggest add some description here like - Paul stepped in.]"Very well. I proved Rodgers...
"Yes." [He] walked over and poured himself a cup of coffee. - suggest to use 'Paul' or 'His father' here. When to men are in the scene, it's better to have clear indication.
"Margaret and I will babysit this little guy, while you and Paul finish all that legal stuff." [She glanced] at Margaret. "Is that all right? " [She grinned]. "Then you and Anna can stay for dinner. We'll barbecue pork chops on the grill."
This may sound better:
"Margaret and I will babysit this little guy, while you and Paul finish all that legal stuff." She glanced at Margaret and grinned. "Is that all right? You and Anna can stay for dinner then. We'll barbecue pork chops on the grill."
Comment Written 19-Jul-2011
reply by the author on 19-Jul-2011
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Thank you for your suggestions. I have made the corrections. I appreciate your kind reivew.
Comment from Charmane
Domestic violence is a terrible thing to read about and to observe. It tears up so many homes and leaves children heart broken and empty. Women are victims most of the time, and they are abused and even murdered bytheir spouses,too.
As I viewed the picture above the poem, my heart skipped a beat, and memories of a bad scene entered my mind.MY next door neighbor was abused every weekend for so... long. Her husband would bring home the bacon,(money) and give it to his wife for groceries and to pay bills. She did take care of the household. However, her husband would always return and demand all of the money. He beat her so badly, that the neighbors called the police. I was thirtheen years old, but I will never forget this incident, as long as I live. I am very glad that there are laws to assist battered women, and places that women can go to for refuge.
reply by the author on 19-Jul-2011
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Domestic violence is a terrible thing to read about and to observe. It tears up so many homes and leaves children heart broken and empty. Women are victims most of the time, and they are abused and even murdered bytheir spouses,too.
As I viewed the picture above the poem, my heart skipped a beat, and memories of a bad scene entered my mind.MY next door neighbor was abused every weekend for so... long. Her husband would bring home the bacon,(money) and give it to his wife for groceries and to pay bills. She did take care of the household. However, her husband would always return and demand all of the money. He beat her so badly, that the neighbors called the police. I was thirtheen years old, but I will never forget this incident, as long as I live. I am very glad that there are laws to assist battered women, and places that women can go to for refuge.
Comment Written 18-Jul-2011
reply by the author on 19-Jul-2011
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Thank you for the kind review and insight.
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THE PLEASURE IS ALL MINE.
Comment from judiverse
barbara, This seems such a realistic portrayal of what a young woman can go through if she has an abusive husband. All the details about the divorce that you brought in seemed in keeping with what probably takes place as attorneys handle the arrangements. Anna seems to be in a good place finally, with her determination and all the support she's getting. Understand that she doesn't expect or want much from her soon-to-be ex-husband. Great work. judiverse
reply by the author on 18-Jul-2011
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barbara, This seems such a realistic portrayal of what a young woman can go through if she has an abusive husband. All the details about the divorce that you brought in seemed in keeping with what probably takes place as attorneys handle the arrangements. Anna seems to be in a good place finally, with her determination and all the support she's getting. Understand that she doesn't expect or want much from her soon-to-be ex-husband. Great work. judiverse
Comment Written 18-Jul-2011
reply by the author on 18-Jul-2011
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thank you for your kind review.
Comment from Dannylink2007
Wow, fantastic story! I've read previous installments of this, and as usual, you have fantastic characters, an excellent plot, and an excellent theme. Great job!
reply by the author on 18-Jul-2011
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Wow, fantastic story! I've read previous installments of this, and as usual, you have fantastic characters, an excellent plot, and an excellent theme. Great job!
Comment Written 18-Jul-2011
reply by the author on 18-Jul-2011
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Thank you for your kind review.