A Potpourri of Poetic Curiosities
Viewing comments for Chapter 156 "English as she are spoke"A collection of poems showcasing unusual words
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Comment from Pearl Edwards
What a great old photo, Julie Andrews looks quite different. You've written this one very well in the appropriate language for the play and film. It's not hard to visualize them reciting this one. Brought back memories of a great film,
cheers,
valda
reply by the author on 07-Jun-2018
What a great old photo, Julie Andrews looks quite different. You've written this one very well in the appropriate language for the play and film. It's not hard to visualize them reciting this one. Brought back memories of a great film,
cheers,
valda
Comment Written 07-Jun-2018
reply by the author on 07-Jun-2018
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Thanks very much, Valda. Yes indeed. Julie is an amazing talent, and Rex was no slouch either. Most grateful for the lovely comments - Craig
Comment from --Turtle.
I've seen both my fair lady, and Pygmalion, and I always preferred Pygmalion... not sure why. Maybe there's a bit of feminist in me, or maybe I just like Leslie Howard.
I recognized the flavor of the theme using the bits from the classic, and given the theme, one of contention over how language is used... well, it's a theme that works well for artists.
On one side, you have the writer's sense of: I'll do what I like, and right is what I say it is.
On the other side you have the purist... the sense of butchering the language to the extreme, where beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and beholding butchery of sounds and phrases held dear ... it's hard for some to see the beauty.
Nice job with this poem.
reply by the author on 06-Jun-2018
I've seen both my fair lady, and Pygmalion, and I always preferred Pygmalion... not sure why. Maybe there's a bit of feminist in me, or maybe I just like Leslie Howard.
I recognized the flavor of the theme using the bits from the classic, and given the theme, one of contention over how language is used... well, it's a theme that works well for artists.
On one side, you have the writer's sense of: I'll do what I like, and right is what I say it is.
On the other side you have the purist... the sense of butchering the language to the extreme, where beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and beholding butchery of sounds and phrases held dear ... it's hard for some to see the beauty.
Nice job with this poem.
Comment Written 06-Jun-2018
reply by the author on 06-Jun-2018
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Thanks very much, Turtle.I've never seen Pygmalion - must correct that one of these days. Most grateful for your continued support - Craig
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Pygmalion isn't a musical... and I've read... Though less people have seen Pygmalion, an analysis I read mentioned that it was truer to the original play writer's intent, in that Eliza, though a creation of Higgans, can never be with him, as she has grown beyond that, and he has given her a freedom that he himself does not have. He did not give Eliza life, her life is her own.
Thus the ending of My Fair Lady throws it off with Eliza presented more as tied to Higgen's as his perpetual slipper-fetcher, and the want of a happy-ever-after the guy gets the girl pleaser. Makes audiences happier than ambiguity or facing the possibility that ... he's not a god, he did not give her life, but he did transform her, and she is free to take that transformation where it takes her... even if it's as mrs. Freddy.
Comment from BeasPeas
Orthophony ~ it is a strange word. It translates into "straight sound" which makes sense in the way you use it in your poem. Considering the different location dialects, I can see how/why there would be a difference in pronunciation, though. We see this most often on FS when it involves syllable count. Marilyn
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
Orthophony ~ it is a strange word. It translates into "straight sound" which makes sense in the way you use it in your poem. Considering the different location dialects, I can see how/why there would be a difference in pronunciation, though. We see this most often on FS when it involves syllable count. Marilyn
Comment Written 05-Jun-2018
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
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Thanks very much, Marilyn. Yes, syllable counts are a thorny issue, as of course, are end rhymes. I'm well aware that things that don't sound at all like rhymes to me (e.g. cot/ought) are perfect rhymes to probably the majority here. We need to be careful before we judge others on such criteria. Cheers, Craig
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Hi Craig. So true. What I have learned on this site (and I love this concept) ~ anything the writer deems as poetry IS poetry. Sometimes I think we get 'stuck' in the various rules for forms. Poetry is actually more 'forgiving' than I'd ever suspected. Self-expression and creativity are the most important elements, I think. Marilyn
Comment from lyenochka
I always loved that movie and played the soundtrack often as a child. Too bad that Julie Andrews couldn't have been in that movie because they had to dub Audry Hepburn's voice.
I got all the references and it's such a different world today as we are now to embrace every type of English and not correct pronunciations as before.
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
I always loved that movie and played the soundtrack often as a child. Too bad that Julie Andrews couldn't have been in that movie because they had to dub Audry Hepburn's voice.
I got all the references and it's such a different world today as we are now to embrace every type of English and not correct pronunciations as before.
Comment Written 05-Jun-2018
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
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Thanks very much, Helen. Yep, we have pronunciations, spellings and words that never used to exist. It makes it hard on an old Scrabble player :) Many thanks, Craig
Comment from Pamusart
Hi Craig. This is hilarious. It is just grammatically incorrect enough to be funny. It does not quite meet the definition of the word having to do with enunciation or speaking, but, heck, what's a poet to do? Delightful. Thank you for sharing
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
Hi Craig. This is hilarious. It is just grammatically incorrect enough to be funny. It does not quite meet the definition of the word having to do with enunciation or speaking, but, heck, what's a poet to do? Delightful. Thank you for sharing
Comment Written 05-Jun-2018
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
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Thanks very much for the most kind review, Pam. I'm glad you enjoyed :) Craig
Comment from Gloria ....
Excellent post and I like the twist of Higgins being an illiterate bozo trying to improve Eliza's elocution when he don't know it and ain't wanting no help from no grammie Nazis.
Another entertaining poem, Craig.
Gloria
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
Excellent post and I like the twist of Higgins being an illiterate bozo trying to improve Eliza's elocution when he don't know it and ain't wanting no help from no grammie Nazis.
Another entertaining poem, Craig.
Gloria
Comment Written 05-Jun-2018
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
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Thanks very much, Gloria. Most grateful for your comments, as always. Craig
Comment from Sharon Haiste
I like this.
Your cute verse has a strong message, who's to say what's right or wrong after all.
Your picture brings back memories of the old movie.
Thank you for sharing this.
Sharon
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
I like this.
Your cute verse has a strong message, who's to say what's right or wrong after all.
Your picture brings back memories of the old movie.
Thank you for sharing this.
Sharon
Comment Written 05-Jun-2018
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
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Thanks very much, Sharon. Glad you enjoyed. Craig
Comment from Joy Graham
I didn't know Julie Andrews played that part originally and that it started out as a Broadway musical. I much prefer Audrey in the role. So I learned something new from your poem. Your word of the day is also a learning experience for me. I think each actress has their specialty, and Julie Andrews is the best choice for Mary Poppins :)
Joy xx
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
I didn't know Julie Andrews played that part originally and that it started out as a Broadway musical. I much prefer Audrey in the role. So I learned something new from your poem. Your word of the day is also a learning experience for me. I think each actress has their specialty, and Julie Andrews is the best choice for Mary Poppins :)
Joy xx
Comment Written 05-Jun-2018
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
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Thanks very much, Joy. I think it's a fun word - I can just imagine it being said with a large plumb in the mouth. Most grateful - Craig.
Comment from Sandra du Plessis
A very well-written poem about Eliza Liddell and her way of speach that drove Henry Higgins up the walls. I can sometimes relate to Eliza when I get corrected with my grammar. Lol.
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
A very well-written poem about Eliza Liddell and her way of speach that drove Henry Higgins up the walls. I can sometimes relate to Eliza when I get corrected with my grammar. Lol.
Comment Written 05-Jun-2018
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
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LOL Sandra. There IS a difference - English was Eliza's native tongue. Many thanks :) Craig
Comment from Mustang Patty
LOL, Craig;
There are days when I feel like I'm living in a world where 'correct language' is a must. Writing and speaking are sooooo different. However, I find your poem charming. The two main reasons are I have seen My Fair Lady and Pygmalion, and you used today's word so brilliantly.
Well done and thank you for giving me another new word,
~patty~
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
LOL, Craig;
There are days when I feel like I'm living in a world where 'correct language' is a must. Writing and speaking are sooooo different. However, I find your poem charming. The two main reasons are I have seen My Fair Lady and Pygmalion, and you used today's word so brilliantly.
Well done and thank you for giving me another new word,
~patty~
Comment Written 05-Jun-2018
reply by the author on 05-Jun-2018
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Thanks for the lovely comments, Patty. I'm always greatful that mum tort me how to spell and talk write :) Have you seen this?
Cheers,
Craig
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Thank you for sharing this. Can I use it for the club if it gets approved?
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Well, I'm not a lawyer, but I would think if you just link straight to the Youtube thing it would be OK. I've never understood how it works that people (other than the original copyright holders) put music and videos up there, but I think if there's a dispute, stuff usually gets taken down.
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Okay. I got the link from YouTube and I will embed it in one of my lessons.
Thanks!