History's conundrum
A philosophical poem33 total reviews
Comment from judiverse
This is certainly a big issue in the U.S. now. How accurate is our history? There have been so many attempts to rewrite, to defame our founders and cast doubt on what they achieved. Some truth, some lies pretty much sums it up. When I've been researching Abraham Lincoln, I often find varying accounts, such as about his meeting with Sojourner Truth. You have a lot of truth in this, especially "some truth, some lies" to the accounts we read. There is always going to be bias. Something handed down by word of mouth can always be misinterpreted. Your poem is really fuel for thought. When we read some historical account, we have to remember it comes through a lens, as you mention. Great work, and I do wish I had a six for this. judi
reply by the author on 08-Sep-2022
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This is certainly a big issue in the U.S. now. How accurate is our history? There have been so many attempts to rewrite, to defame our founders and cast doubt on what they achieved. Some truth, some lies pretty much sums it up. When I've been researching Abraham Lincoln, I often find varying accounts, such as about his meeting with Sojourner Truth. You have a lot of truth in this, especially "some truth, some lies" to the accounts we read. There is always going to be bias. Something handed down by word of mouth can always be misinterpreted. Your poem is really fuel for thought. When we read some historical account, we have to remember it comes through a lens, as you mention. Great work, and I do wish I had a six for this. judi
Comment Written 07-Sep-2022
reply by the author on 08-Sep-2022
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Thanks Judi. for these great comments and a super review, blessings Roy
Comment from poetwatch
Written words of history are what a man writes. iIf it is war-- the victor writes the history. Legends are myths that grow with the passing of mouth to mouth. Yet, we believe in what the Bible says. Why? Because it is truth and what is written about people and their way of life historians have proven to be exact. I believe in Jehovah for who else hold the world up with no strings attached?
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Written words of history are what a man writes. iIf it is war-- the victor writes the history. Legends are myths that grow with the passing of mouth to mouth. Yet, we believe in what the Bible says. Why? Because it is truth and what is written about people and their way of life historians have proven to be exact. I believe in Jehovah for who else hold the world up with no strings attached?
Comment Written 06-Sep-2022
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Thanks so much, for these terrific comments and a great review blessings Roy
Comment from Judy Lawless
You've thoughtfully raised many questions in this wonderful poem, Roy. These are questions I myself ask, and today there are so many versions written of what has happened in a day, who in the future will ever know the truth? Well done. Thanks for sharing.
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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You've thoughtfully raised many questions in this wonderful poem, Roy. These are questions I myself ask, and today there are so many versions written of what has happened in a day, who in the future will ever know the truth? Well done. Thanks for sharing.
Comment Written 06-Sep-2022
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Thanks so much Judy, for these terrific comments and a great review blessings Roy
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You?re very welcome, Roy
Comment from GARY MACLEAN
You raise some sound questions. They are questions I use when defending the Bible's truth. When I am told the Bible is nothing more than words written by man, I respond with "So was Genghis Khan, his story is nothing, but words written by man."
There is no recorded history before:
The first photograph ever taken was accomplished in 1826. (1)
The first voice recording was produced on April 09, 1860. (2)
The first moving picture was developed on June 19, 1878. (3)
So, anything before those dates is by word of mouth only. There was no possibility of any record.
Faith is what makes the Bible real to me and this makes the presence of God a given. The existence of Jesus then is real; the crucifixion, the resurrection and the ascension all become factual events. Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark, Jonah and the whale, all these wonderful stories, and so many more, become real.
A Christian becomes a Christian not because of evidence, but because of conviction. We (Christians) do not really view our belief in God as an evidential outcome. We see it more as a sensation that has overcome us as we study and marvel about our Lord.
I apologize for such a long review Roy. You just have a knack for hitting on a tender subject.
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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You raise some sound questions. They are questions I use when defending the Bible's truth. When I am told the Bible is nothing more than words written by man, I respond with "So was Genghis Khan, his story is nothing, but words written by man."
There is no recorded history before:
The first photograph ever taken was accomplished in 1826. (1)
The first voice recording was produced on April 09, 1860. (2)
The first moving picture was developed on June 19, 1878. (3)
So, anything before those dates is by word of mouth only. There was no possibility of any record.
Faith is what makes the Bible real to me and this makes the presence of God a given. The existence of Jesus then is real; the crucifixion, the resurrection and the ascension all become factual events. Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark, Jonah and the whale, all these wonderful stories, and so many more, become real.
A Christian becomes a Christian not because of evidence, but because of conviction. We (Christians) do not really view our belief in God as an evidential outcome. We see it more as a sensation that has overcome us as we study and marvel about our Lord.
I apologize for such a long review Roy. You just have a knack for hitting on a tender subject.
Comment Written 06-Sep-2022
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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I agree with everything you say Gary, you know exactly why you believe, and know why you don?t trust the world, you?re a thinking man, who uses what God gave him, exactly why He said, love Him with all your mind, my admiration Gary, review away, it?s worth reading, blessings Roy
Comment from dragonpoet
Hi Roy,
]This is a well written, rhymed and metered poem about question whether recorded history is true or not. I think it is biased because it is usually written by the winner. But I think they get information from archaeological date, people's diaries and sometimes, in more recent times imbedded TV reporters.
Keep writing and stay healthy
Joan
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Hi Roy,
]This is a well written, rhymed and metered poem about question whether recorded history is true or not. I think it is biased because it is usually written by the winner. But I think they get information from archaeological date, people's diaries and sometimes, in more recent times imbedded TV reporters.
Keep writing and stay healthy
Joan
Comment Written 06-Sep-2022
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Thanks so much Joan, for these terrific comments and a great review blessings Roy
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No problem, Roy.
Joan
Comment from estory
There's an interesting philosophy here or a questioning of reality, of history, it seems to me. Are these ambitions and accomplishments of man really accomplishments after all? Does it stand up to the refining lense of Christ? I think that is what you are trying to get across here. estory
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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There's an interesting philosophy here or a questioning of reality, of history, it seems to me. Are these ambitions and accomplishments of man really accomplishments after all? Does it stand up to the refining lense of Christ? I think that is what you are trying to get across here. estory
Comment Written 06-Sep-2022
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Thanks so much , for these terrific comments and a great review blessings Roy
Comment from Teri7
Amen dear brother! This is very well written. I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ because He lives in me by the Holy Spirit. You have written a very good post my friend. Thank you for sharing. blessings, Teri
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Amen dear brother! This is very well written. I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ because He lives in me by the Holy Spirit. You have written a very good post my friend. Thank you for sharing. blessings, Teri
Comment Written 06-Sep-2022
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Thanks Teri, for these excellent comments and review blessings Roy
Comment from Joanne Gill-Maddick
Another amazing write Roy. I know your style so well before I see your name I know it's your writing. This is a beautifully written poem with a great flow and rhyme. Your photo is amazing I absolutely love butterflies.
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Another amazing write Roy. I know your style so well before I see your name I know it's your writing. This is a beautifully written poem with a great flow and rhyme. Your photo is amazing I absolutely love butterflies.
Comment Written 06-Sep-2022
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Thanks Joanne, for these terrific comments and a great review blessings Roy
Comment from BethShelby
I doubt the stories of Bonaparte and Genghis Khan were inspired by the Holy Spirit and I'm sure a lot of exaggeration and lore went into those stories. I think the Bible leaves a lot to the imagination, but I feel like God hand was on those who recorded the scripture and enough is there to make sure even the simplest of us can grasp enough truth to find our way.
If we are to believe God has no beginning and no end then there is whole lot we'll never know until we reach the next realm of what might have happened in this vast universe before the story of our little earth took place. I imagine God's creative side has always existed and the story of this earth is just a blip in time. There is a lot that doesn't make since to our finite minds and one is that suddenly around 7000 or so years ago, God decided it was time to start creating.
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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I doubt the stories of Bonaparte and Genghis Khan were inspired by the Holy Spirit and I'm sure a lot of exaggeration and lore went into those stories. I think the Bible leaves a lot to the imagination, but I feel like God hand was on those who recorded the scripture and enough is there to make sure even the simplest of us can grasp enough truth to find our way.
If we are to believe God has no beginning and no end then there is whole lot we'll never know until we reach the next realm of what might have happened in this vast universe before the story of our little earth took place. I imagine God's creative side has always existed and the story of this earth is just a blip in time. There is a lot that doesn't make since to our finite minds and one is that suddenly around 7000 or so years ago, God decided it was time to start creating.
Comment Written 06-Sep-2022
reply by the author on 07-Sep-2022
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Thanks Beth, for these thoughtful comments and considerate review blessings Roy
Comment from Thomas Blanks
History's Conundrum is a poem by Roy Owen about history and the question of what really happened versus what someone wrote...
I respond to Roy...
"History is a set of lies agreed upon," is what Napoleon spoke.
Stalin changed Russian history so many times, it became a joke!
Remember, it is the victor who gets to write the history down,
And sometimes the victor is nothing more than a clown!
reply by the author on 06-Sep-2022
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History's Conundrum is a poem by Roy Owen about history and the question of what really happened versus what someone wrote...
I respond to Roy...
"History is a set of lies agreed upon," is what Napoleon spoke.
Stalin changed Russian history so many times, it became a joke!
Remember, it is the victor who gets to write the history down,
And sometimes the victor is nothing more than a clown!
Comment Written 05-Sep-2022
reply by the author on 06-Sep-2022
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Thanks so much Thomas, for these wonderful comments and a great review, blessings Roy
